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  Question re: TerryWalstrom post on Reza Aslan

  by Esse quam videri in

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  as i understand reza alsan's explanation of our view of history vs the ancients, the ancients were not so committed to recording accurate facts as recording ideas which, reza aslan stated , would be their understanding of truth.

  it appears many have been quick to accept reza aslan's comments as having great weight.

  he is a convincing speaker, i think mainly, because he believes what he says.

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  Village Idiot :

  Thank-you for your comments.
  
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  Question re: TerryWalstrom post on Reza Aslan

  by Esse quam videri in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  as i understand reza alsan's explanation of our view of history vs the ancients, the ancients were not so committed to recording accurate facts as recording ideas which, reza aslan stated , would be their understanding of truth.

  it appears many have been quick to accept reza aslan's comments as having great weight.

  he is a convincing speaker, i think mainly, because he believes what he says.

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  As I understand Reza Alsan's explanation of our view of history vs the ancients, the ancients were not so committed to recording accurate facts as recording ideas which, Reza Aslan stated , would be their understanding of truth. It appears many have been quick to accept Reza Aslan's comments as having great weight. He is a convincing speaker, I think mainly, because he believes what he says. Many here have, in the past, given convincing arguments to support subjects they now reject.

  My questions are the following:

  Why has accepted evidence shown that the ancients were so fastidious in making accurate records if the idea was the important thing? Why meticulous recording of events as they were handed down generation after generation?

  I direct attention to comments regarding the Dead Sea Scrolls as a contribution to this topic.

  After years of careful study, it has been concluded that the Dead Sea Scrolls give substantial confirmation that our Old Testament has been accurately preserved. The scrolls were found to be almost identical with the Masoretic text. Hebrew Scholar Millar Burrows writes, “It is a matter of wonder that through something like one thousand years the text underwent so little alteration. As I said in my first article on the scroll, ‘Herein lies its chief importance, supporting the fidelity of the Masoretic tradition.'”{6}

  A significant comparison study was conducted with the Isaiah Scroll written around 100 B.C. that was found among the Dead Sea documents and the book of Isaiah found in the Masoretic text. After much research, scholars found that the two texts were practically identical. Most variants were minor spelling differences, and none affected the meaning of the text.

  One of the most respected Old Testament scholars, the late Gleason Archer, examined the two Isaiah scrolls found in Cave 1 and wrote, “Even though the two copies of Isaiah discovered in Qumran Cave 1 near the Dead Sea in 1947 were a thousand years earlier than the oldest dated manuscript previously known (A.D. 980), they proved to be word for word identical with our standard Hebrew Bible in more than 95 percent of the text. The five percent of variation consisted chiefly of obvious slips of the pen and variations in spelling.”{7}

  Despite the thousand year gap, scholars found the Masoretic Text and Dead Sea Scrolls to be nearly identical. The Dead Sea Scrolls provide valuable evidence that the Old Testament had been accurately and carefully preserved.
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  JW Cart - Historical Photo - 1

  by Esse quam videri in

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  with all the buzz about the jw public witnessing cart it has escaped the notice of all but the most studious researchers that the wt carts were actually started by pastor charles taze russell.

  a careful examination of one of the most famous photographs of the 1906 san fransisco fire, caused by the preceding earthquake, reveals a wt cart.

  further investigation brought the researchers attention to bible student sister myrtle jenson, shown on the left of the photograph, and facing away from the camera, looking down sacramento street.

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  DATA-DOG asked,

  ' ...Who photo-shopped the other one?'

  That hurt!
  
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  JW Cart - Historical Photo - 1

  by Esse quam videri in

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  with all the buzz about the jw public witnessing cart it has escaped the notice of all but the most studious researchers that the wt carts were actually started by pastor charles taze russell.

  a careful examination of one of the most famous photographs of the 1906 san fransisco fire, caused by the preceding earthquake, reveals a wt cart.

  further investigation brought the researchers attention to bible student sister myrtle jenson, shown on the left of the photograph, and facing away from the camera, looking down sacramento street.

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  steve2 said,

  'In what publication is this sister's experience related? How many years later did she recount it? From what source did you acquire a copy of the photograph? The cart looks very modern and could pass for a current cart raising a question about photo-shopping.
  

  Really? In keeping with the Watchtower Society's tendency toward 'historical adjustments' I see nothing strange or unusual about this photograph. As for Sister Jenson's recounting of events, it evidently would appear that she did make such a statement.
  
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  JW Cart - Historical Photo - 1

  by Esse quam videri in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  with all the buzz about the jw public witnessing cart it has escaped the notice of all but the most studious researchers that the wt carts were actually started by pastor charles taze russell.

  a careful examination of one of the most famous photographs of the 1906 san fransisco fire, caused by the preceding earthquake, reveals a wt cart.

  further investigation brought the researchers attention to bible student sister myrtle jenson, shown on the left of the photograph, and facing away from the camera, looking down sacramento street.

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  With all the buzz about the JW Public Witnessing Cart it has escaped the notice of all but the most studious researchers that the WT Carts were  actually started by Pastor Charles Taze Russell. A careful examination of one of the most famous photographs of the 1906 San Fransisco fire, caused by the preceding earthquake, reveals a WT Cart. Further investigation brought the researchers attention to  Bible Student Sister Myrtle Jenson, shown on the left of the photograph, and facing away from the camera, looking down Sacramento Street. Miss Jenson is the woman in the light coat at the center of the group of ladies on the left of the photograph. Miss Jenson only left her cart unattended for a short time, to view the fire. She immediately returned to her cart duties, but not before inviting all the fellow onlookers to come back and 'take life's waters free', namely brochures explaining the Studies in the Scriptures written by Pastor Russell.

  Years later, when questioned about her experience that day she recounted, ' ...oh my, what a day that was. I think I placed hundreds of brochures. Of course I could never have done it without the earthquake. I guess I was just lucky that day. I was hoping Armageddon had come but it was not to be. Too bad, too bad...'

  

  
  
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  Hypocrisy@Bethel

  by scary21 in

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  don't know how to do a link but................ video just posted on you-tube called hypocrisy@ bethel by jwfairytail.

  he calls bethel several times about the happy@ bethel.

  it last like an hour and a half.

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  JWFT definitely puts their 'feet to the fire' and keeps them answering and excusing and justifying over and over again. Though his presentation may not suit everyone, who on this forum has even contacted Bethel headquarters and asked anything, anytime? My guess is that if you have it has been with timidity and hesitation. JWFT shows 'righteous indignation' and with that weapon few can stand.

  This is a valuable recorded conversation. Download it and keep it as a reference. Use what you can and ignore what you cannot. If you fault it, come up with your own. Let everyone else see what YOU can offer.
  
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  All this new JW.org stuff is hurting my brain

  by Nosferatu in

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  so i just watched the singing cart video.

  i literally cannot describe how i felt watching that.. growing up as a jw was serious business.

  we had to take the preaching work seriously, watch our conduct, give a good witness by our actions, and be on our best behaviour to ensure we made it through the great tribulation.. when i was a child, i had dreams of being a cartoonist.

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  Childish, moronic, sickening beyond belief. Shameful. What sane person would direct people to that crap?
  
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  Musical video on JW-TV February monthly program - must see !!

  by Viva la Vida in

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  you must see the musical video at the end of this month program (aprox.

  at 1:04:30).... i don't like to use "must" but this is wow... if you think they couldn't get any lower... just be prepared...

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  "....what a feeeeeling, to go wheeeeeeling,...

  I'm so glad to be a public witness caaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaart..."
  
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  Tony, the disapproving gendarme.

  by Esse quam videri in

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  first tight pants and now this...?

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  First tight pants and now this...?
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  The scared little girl in the basement

  by brandnew in

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  im kinda mad, its hard to shake off the look of that little girls face...standing in someones basement, scared.. why the hiding?

  if these people werent in this basement, would they be killed?

  all them years of studying and being loyal, and its come to this.......being scared in a basement....all bad !

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  The sister directly behind the speaker... I don't think she's paying attention.